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Suicide 1943?

Started by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Does anybody know any information on a suicide in 1943? She was found in a gas filled bedroom on teck street after hearing she had lost her boyfriend in the navy.

Started: 16th Dec 2022 at 20:15

Posted by: winnie (1545) 

do you know her name?

Replied: 18th Dec 2022 at 15:28

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Her name on her grave (which she shares with my uncle who died in the navy) is Elizabeth Elsie Walsh. She was 17

Replied: 18th Dec 2022 at 17:09

Posted by: surfer_tom (873)

H312
Jake, Grave wigan cemetery index

Replied: 18th Dec 2022 at 19:59

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Yeah she’s buried with my family I was just trying to find out more information

Replied: 18th Dec 2022 at 20:06

Posted by: surfer_tom (873)

Jake
Some photos of teck st on wiganworld young girl her mother was a Walsh just Google teck st

Replied: 19th Dec 2022 at 19:47

Posted by: gaffer (7966) 

Mother’s maiden name was Agnes Jennings. She married Anthony Walsh in June 1919. They lived at 18 Teck Street.

Replied: 20th Dec 2022 at 09:34

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Thanks for the info Gaffer.. I’m trying to find out more about it. She is buried with my great uncle and his family I’m trying to find out if her family know where she is buried

Replied: 21st Dec 2022 at 18:08

Posted by: JAMB (151)

The grave index says Michael Speakman , it was in fact Richard Speakman born 1924, he was the son of Ethel Speakman and stepson of Michael Kinane , he was accidentally shot by one of his crew mates
Elizabeth died at her sisters house 4 Albions Yard Millgate , her sister was Margaret, married name Kelly. (source of info from the Wigan Observer)
The Grave is a war grave and a photo of it can be found on the CWGC website

Replied: 22nd Dec 2022 at 11:49

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

That’s amazing info JAMB what else does it say on the observer? Is there something I can use to get on it

Replied: 23rd Dec 2022 at 19:26

Posted by: JAMB (151)

I looked at it on the films in the museum in Wigan, dont know where you are situated, but I will try to get the full transcript for you , but dont know when they are open now due to the holidays but i will get it when I can, dont know if you can get it online but if you can I would imagine there will be a charge??

Replied: 23rd Dec 2022 at 20:31

Posted by: JAMB (151)

jake this is the transcript I promised you

Wigan Observer 8th January 1944 Page 3

"SEAMAN ACCIDENTALLY SHOT"
The funeral took place on Thursday last week, of able seaman Richard Speakman, the son of Ethel Kinane of 127 Chestnut Road Whelley, he was killed on 22nd December ,through the accidental firing of a pistol by one of his messmates. His death was instantaneous.
Able seaman Speakman who was 19 years of age , joined the Royal Navy on the 28th December 1942. he was formerly a builders labourer.
Requiem Mass was said by FR. J . Whiteley at St Marys R.C. Church Standishgate and interment followed at Wigan Cemetery.
Fr. Hopkins performed the last rites. His coffin was draped with the Union Jack
The funeral arrangements were carried out by Messrs Middleton & Wood
There is also a photo of him(head and shoulder shot in uniform attached to the report

The article about Elizabeth is in the same newspaper same date but on page 5

Replied: 3rd Jan 2023 at 12:31

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

JAMB, could you email me the photo of Richard please!!!??
Jakedawberwallgate23@gmail.com

Replied: 5th Jan 2023 at 05:19

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

JAMB, our family don’t have a picture of Dickie so if you will please email me the picture I will be forever thankful

Replied: 5th Jan 2023 at 05:33

Posted by: JAMB (151)

I will TRY to get to the museum tomorrow and see what I can do

Replied: 5th Jan 2023 at 15:11

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Can you try get the page 5 of the story of Elsie JAMB?

Replied: 7th Jan 2023 at 07:36

Posted by: JAMB (151)

I will have a look next week , it is quite lengthy as I recall , about half a column or so, headlined girls tragic end?

Replied: 7th Jan 2023 at 11:46

Posted by: JakeDawber23 (79) 

Can you try get the page 5 of the story of Elsie JAMB?

Replied: 8th Jan 2023 at 17:32

 

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